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	<title>Comments on: Guest Columnist:  Norma Jean Almodovar (Part Two)</title>
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	<description>Frank commentary from a retired call girl</description>
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		<title>By: aspasialibertine</title>
		<link>http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2011/09/17/guest-columnist-norma-jean-almodovar-part-two/#comment-12955</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aspasialibertine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 04:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will remember not to be in a house fire if Gloria Steinem is around. Amazing. So being able to carry an unconscious adult out of a fire is a macho action? Oy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will remember not to be in a house fire if Gloria Steinem is around. Amazing. So being able to carry an unconscious adult out of a fire is a macho action? Oy.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie McNeill</title>
		<link>http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2011/09/17/guest-columnist-norma-jean-almodovar-part-two/#comment-12924</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maggie McNeill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, yeah; EVERYTHING involving women, men and sex is &quot;trafficking&quot; to them now.  I can think of two relevant columns; &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/one-size-fits-all/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;One Size Fits All&lt;/a&gt;&quot; on August 9th and &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/a-war-for-peace/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A War for Peace&lt;/a&gt;&quot; on May 12th.

In the future, my &lt;a href=&quot;http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/index/subject-index/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new subject index&lt;/a&gt; might help; I tried to be as exhaustive as possible. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yeah; EVERYTHING involving women, men and sex is &#8220;trafficking&#8221; to them now.  I can think of two relevant columns; &#8220;<a href="http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/one-size-fits-all/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">One Size Fits All</a>&#8221; on August 9th and &#8220;<a href="http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/a-war-for-peace/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">A War for Peace</a>&#8221; on May 12th.</p>
<p>In the future, my <a href="http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/index/subject-index/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">new subject index</a> might help; I tried to be as exhaustive as possible. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Imnoangel</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This morning UK TV showed an item about rich middle-aged/ elderly American men going to the Ukraine to find wives.  There was no pretence that they were looking for a marriage of minds but there was no doubt that these girls knew exactly what they were doing and were not being in any way coerced. 

HOWEVER, just before the item finished we were treated  to a short interview with a &quot;Womens rights&quot; representative who obviously disapproved of such events and added that it was very close to trafficking!

Sorry - this comment isn&#039;t necessarily relevant to this blog but I couldn&#039;t thing where else to put it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning UK TV showed an item about rich middle-aged/ elderly American men going to the Ukraine to find wives.  There was no pretence that they were looking for a marriage of minds but there was no doubt that these girls knew exactly what they were doing and were not being in any way coerced. </p>
<p>HOWEVER, just before the item finished we were treated  to a short interview with a &#8220;Womens rights&#8221; representative who obviously disapproved of such events and added that it was very close to trafficking!</p>
<p>Sorry &#8211; this comment isn&#8217;t necessarily relevant to this blog but I couldn&#8217;t thing where else to put it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marla</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[100% agree with you, too, Aspasia. Most American professional feminists are White or Jewish women from middle or upper middle class backgrounds, and they are completely out of touch with the fact that for many poor/nonwhite women, prostitution is actually the safest of the available good-paying jobs.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:5UgBaV_JC_cJ:www.theabsolute.net/misogyny/eisenman.html+female+firefighters+gloria+alred+steinem&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gloria Steinem&lt;/a&gt; is so eager for poor/nonwhite women to be firefighters that she opposes fire company screening procedures to test whether applicants are strong enough to carry an unconscious adult out of a burning building, and she claims it&#039;s safer for a firefighter to drag an unconscious person on the floor by his ankles: &lt;i&gt;&quot;It&#039;s better to drag them out, because there is less smoke down there. I mean, we&#039;re probably killing people by carrying them out at that height, you know, so – I mean, you know, we need to look sensibly here at these jobs and what they really require, and not just some idea of what macho is.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Employment discrimination means discrimination on the basis of factors that do NOT affect job performance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100% agree with you, too, Aspasia. Most American professional feminists are White or Jewish women from middle or upper middle class backgrounds, and they are completely out of touch with the fact that for many poor/nonwhite women, prostitution is actually the safest of the available good-paying jobs.</p>
<p><a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:5UgBaV_JC_cJ:www.theabsolute.net/misogyny/eisenman.html+female+firefighters+gloria+alred+steinem&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us" rel="nofollow">Gloria Steinem</a> is so eager for poor/nonwhite women to be firefighters that she opposes fire company screening procedures to test whether applicants are strong enough to carry an unconscious adult out of a burning building, and she claims it&#8217;s safer for a firefighter to drag an unconscious person on the floor by his ankles: <i>&#8220;It&#8217;s better to drag them out, because there is less smoke down there. I mean, we&#8217;re probably killing people by carrying them out at that height, you know, so – I mean, you know, we need to look sensibly here at these jobs and what they really require, and not just some idea of what macho is.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Employment discrimination means discrimination on the basis of factors that do NOT affect job performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Sailor Barsoom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sailor Barsoom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No problem.  He&#039;s a lumberjack, and he&#039;s OK.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem.  He&#8217;s a lumberjack, and he&#8217;s OK.</p>
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		<title>By: c andrew</title>
		<link>http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2011/09/17/guest-columnist-norma-jean-almodovar-part-two/#comment-12908</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[c andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sailor Barsoom,

I must protest the previous in the strongest possible terms. Some of my best friends are lumberjacks and none of them are trans...

oops, wrong rant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sailor Barsoom,</p>
<p>I must protest the previous in the strongest possible terms. Some of my best friends are lumberjacks and none of them are trans&#8230;</p>
<p>oops, wrong rant.</p>
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		<title>By: Sailor Barsoom</title>
		<link>http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2011/09/17/guest-columnist-norma-jean-almodovar-part-two/#comment-12905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sailor Barsoom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the uneducated among you,* &quot;Michael Valentine Smith&quot; and &quot;grokked&quot; are references to Robert A. Heinlein&#039;s classic novel &lt;i&gt;Stranger in a Strange Land&lt;/i&gt;, which I highly recommend.


* Before any non-science fiction fan jumps on me for calling you &quot;uneducated,&quot; grow a sense of humor.  And if you&#039;ve got one already, then I&#039;m not talking about you, so chill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the uneducated among you,* &#8220;Michael Valentine Smith&#8221; and &#8220;grokked&#8221; are references to Robert A. Heinlein&#8217;s classic novel <i>Stranger in a Strange Land</i>, which I highly recommend.</p>
<p>* Before any non-science fiction fan jumps on me for calling you &#8220;uneducated,&#8221; grow a sense of humor.  And if you&#8217;ve got one already, then I&#8217;m not talking about you, so chill.</p>
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		<title>By: aspasialibertine</title>
		<link>http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2011/09/17/guest-columnist-norma-jean-almodovar-part-two/#comment-12889</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aspasialibertine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 01:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[100% agree with you Marla! Don&#039;t even get me started on the feminist (both conservative and &#039;radical&#039; liberal) objections to femininity...I&#039;ll save that for a blog post. 

Further deepening what you and Maggie said, those same feminists then &lt;i&gt;ignore&lt;/i&gt; the women who &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; in those &quot;acceptibly dangerous&quot; jobs due to latent class (and race, in some cases) issues they don&#039;t want to acknowledge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100% agree with you Marla! Don&#8217;t even get me started on the feminist (both conservative and &#8216;radical&#8217; liberal) objections to femininity&#8230;I&#8217;ll save that for a blog post. </p>
<p>Further deepening what you and Maggie said, those same feminists then <i>ignore</i> the women who <i>are</i> in those &#8220;acceptibly dangerous&#8221; jobs due to latent class (and race, in some cases) issues they don&#8217;t want to acknowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie McNeill</title>
		<link>http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2011/09/17/guest-columnist-norma-jean-almodovar-part-two/#comment-12864</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maggie McNeill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s worse is that they consistently campaign for laws which make prostitution even &lt;em&gt;more&lt;/em&gt; dangerous, proving that they&#039;re perfectly happy to pave the way to their &quot;feminist Utopia&quot; with the bodies of real women.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s worse is that they consistently campaign for laws which make prostitution even <em>more</em> dangerous, proving that they&#8217;re perfectly happy to pave the way to their &#8220;feminist Utopia&#8221; with the bodies of real women.</p>
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		<title>By: Marla</title>
		<link>http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2011/09/17/guest-columnist-norma-jean-almodovar-part-two/#comment-12859</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;Prostitution is unsafe&quot; argument is deep hypocrisy coming from feminists, because feminists want women to do jobs that are as dangerous or more dangerous than prostitution, such as combat soldier, firefighter, police officer, etc. Feminists are happy for women to do dangerous jobs as long as they&#039;re dangerous *masculine* jobs, because what they really object to is not danger but femininity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Prostitution is unsafe&#8221; argument is deep hypocrisy coming from feminists, because feminists want women to do jobs that are as dangerous or more dangerous than prostitution, such as combat soldier, firefighter, police officer, etc. Feminists are happy for women to do dangerous jobs as long as they&#8217;re dangerous *masculine* jobs, because what they really object to is not danger but femininity.</p>
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