Comments on: Their Lips Are Moving

By: Broke Brehon (@belowcontempt)

Broke Brehon (@belowcontempt) — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 19:36:32 +0000

You should of course know that the college he is a Professor at is John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York which has a long standing relationship with law enforcement which might explain the quality of his ignorance.

(Know it’s an old post but just wanted to get that out there)

By: Laura

Laura — Thu, 05 May 2011 09:23:15 +0000

Dear Tony, yes, there’s many things we do that HAVE risk in them. But, what about doing things in our personal lives to avoid hurting others as much as possible? That’s 1 thing Joyce was talking about. An example is you CAN have a relationship WITHOUT lies and hiding. Yes, there are risks with many things all of us do every day. But, when we do things where we have to make a CHOICE before we do them, what about a different standard? Like think of the others involved?

By: Laura

Laura — Tue, 03 May 2011 09:34:45 +0000

Dear Tony, you’re welcome on the link. I put that up to show there have been people with AIDS who died less than 6 months after diagnosis. I didn’t read it as carefully as you did. Thanks for pointing out what you found from it!

By: Tony

Tony — Mon, 02 May 2011 10:19:28 +0000

Thank you for the link. It was an interesting article. However..

You are actually making my point for me Laura. The article you linked was referring specifically to [b]late diagnosis with high risk of death within 3 months.[/b] This supports the theory that the girl that died was the most likely transmitter of the disease, that she gave it to her boyfriend, and that he in turn gave it to the girl he cheated with. If that were the case, then the girl Joyce would have been guilty of sending two ‘victims’ to their death because of her zealot attitude.

“In an article published in the online edition of AIDS, the researchers suggest that [b]patients who have a CD4 cell count below 350 cells/mm3[/b]– the current threshold for starting HIV treatment – [b]at the time of their HIV diagnosis should be defined as having a late diagnosis.[/b]

[b]The presence at diagnosis of factors associated with a high risk of death within three months[/b]– a CD4 cell count below 200 cells/mm3 or an AIDS-defining illness –[b] should, the investigators propose, be described as presentation with “advanced HIV disease”. [/b]“

By: Tony

Tony — Mon, 02 May 2011 10:05:59 +0000

Of course I do. Hell, I discover the oil that you put in your car. But then again, I am not the one making the call for the death penalty for making a mistake. The point is, Laura, that nearly every human action has consequences that have the potential to negatively impact another human life, even silly little day to day things that we give not thought to what-so-ever.

When was the last time you considered that your diet would lead to diabetes or heart disease and that your friends/family deprived of your existence could be considered victims of your lack of foresight? Your enjoyment of a doughnut and coffee is not a victimless crime.

The only difference between Joyce’s example and the example of your doughnut and coffee is paperwork. That’s it. One has been put on paper as illegal, the other has not.

Lack of foresight, according to Joyce, is what the boy and girl in her example should be be given the DP for. My point was to illustrate the sheer lunacy of that by pointing out that by those standards, we all deserve to die, which, not so incidentally is a very Judeo Christian mindset. We are all sinners and “..the wages sin pays is death.”

By: Sailor Barsoom

Sailor Barsoom — Sun, 01 May 2011 23:00:52 +0000

We all do, and that's the point. If you are going to start demanding the DP for anything that could end up getting somebody killed (that airplane I'm getting on, it could crash on top of somebody), then we should all be executed. Which would be silly.

By: Sailor Barsoom

Sailor Barsoom — Sun, 01 May 2011 22:58:07 +0000

It’s OK. We all need a rudder from time to time. Sometimes I’m your rudder, sometimes you’re mine. Actually, a few times I’ve needed a rudder, a couple of ailerons, maybe some…

You’ve been my whole atmospheric control surface system a couple of times, haven’t you Babe?

By: Laura

Laura — Sun, 01 May 2011 19:46:33 +0000

The above was my answer to Maggie, re: her post starting out with “Laura, you know divorce isn’t that easy…”

By: Laura

Laura — Sun, 01 May 2011 19:43:46 +0000

OK, I should have been clearer here also. I’m talking specifically about the cases Gorbachev brought up. From what I got reading about them it looked like the couples had done all they could and it wasn’t working.

By: Laura

Laura — Sun, 01 May 2011 19:37:42 +0000

I could have been clearer. Sorry I wasn’t. I was talking specifically about the cases that Gorbachev brought up and was agreeing with Joyce on her take on 1 of the cases. I personally hate this divorce for any reason ###***. Too many couples don’t even try. They have 1 fight and run from the commitment. Very sad. They don’t even consider any form of counseling. I think the US divorce rate has a huge amount to do with plain selfishness. However, there’s also cases where the couple HAS tried everything, including counseling, and it’s just not working. The stick with the person no matter what thing in SOME cases leads to violence. I know this 1st hand.