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	<title>Comments on: Genesis of a Harlot (Part One)</title>
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		<title>By: Andrew Fawcett aka Angus Magee</title>
		<link>http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/genesis-of-a-harlot-part-one/#comment-20320</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Fawcett aka Angus Magee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll figure it out and let you know when I do]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll figure it out and let you know when I do</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie McNeill</title>
		<link>http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/genesis-of-a-harlot-part-one/#comment-20319</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maggie McNeill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In other words, add me to your blogroll or the equivalent, like my right-hand column there. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words, add me to your blogroll or the equivalent, like my right-hand column there. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Fawcett aka Angus Magee</title>
		<link>http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/genesis-of-a-harlot-part-one/#comment-20316</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Fawcett aka Angus Magee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

Sorry for my delay in relying but I have been in bed with a cold and more or less off line for a few days.

I am not 100% sure what you mean by a permanent link but I was planning to write up a short blog entry recommending your blog to my readers. I really do think it worth reading. It gives such a good alternate view to the hooker as victim that is so common. 

Regards

A]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Sorry for my delay in relying but I have been in bed with a cold and more or less off line for a few days.</p>
<p>I am not 100% sure what you mean by a permanent link but I was planning to write up a short blog entry recommending your blog to my readers. I really do think it worth reading. It gives such a good alternate view to the hooker as victim that is so common. </p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>A</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie McNeill</title>
		<link>http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/genesis-of-a-harlot-part-one/#comment-20232</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maggie McNeill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Andrew; I try to present as realistic a view as I can, and since new people discover my blog every day you&#039;re getting your wish, albeit gradually. ;-)

If you put a permanent link to this blog on your site, I&#039;ll provide one for you on my &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/offsite/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Offsite&lt;/a&gt;&quot; page. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Andrew; I try to present as realistic a view as I can, and since new people discover my blog every day you&#8217;re getting your wish, albeit gradually. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If you put a permanent link to this blog on your site, I&#8217;ll provide one for you on my &#8220;<a href="http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/offsite/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Offsite</a>&#8221; page. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Fawcett aka Angus Magee</title>
		<link>http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/genesis-of-a-harlot-part-one/#comment-20231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Fawcett aka Angus Magee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the great read. You really have a great knowledge and style. I wish more could read what I feel is a far more balanced view of  this life. If you feel to have a look at my own blog which details the pay sex scene in Berlin Germany (written in English) from the customer&#039;s point of view.

In closing I will say reading you blog is an inspiration to me and I plan to read it all.

My blog  www.angusmagee.com (if you do not want the adress posted feel free to delete it before you publish the comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great read. You really have a great knowledge and style. I wish more could read what I feel is a far more balanced view of  this life. If you feel to have a look at my own blog which details the pay sex scene in Berlin Germany (written in English) from the customer&#8217;s point of view.</p>
<p>In closing I will say reading you blog is an inspiration to me and I plan to read it all.</p>
<p>My blog  <a href="http://www.angusmagee.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.angusmagee.com</a> (if you do not want the adress posted feel free to delete it before you publish the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sailor Barsoom</title>
		<link>http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/genesis-of-a-harlot-part-one/#comment-16651</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sailor Barsoom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 21:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, there is a lot of overlap between libertarian types and science fiction types.  Of course, I&#039;ve read claims that this is because neither live entirely in the real world.  ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there is a lot of overlap between libertarian types and science fiction types.  Of course, I&#8217;ve read claims that this is because neither live entirely in the real world.  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ornithorhynchus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ornithorhynchus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 08:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never known any hookers, unless you count Maggie and the others who comment on here.  But I have known several libertarian-types, and I&#039;ve read a lot of libertarian websites, and there certainly seems to be a very high proportion of science fiction fans among them.  While this is anecdotal and inconclusive, I&#039;d say it is a good indication of a link between science fiction and free-thinking in general.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never known any hookers, unless you count Maggie and the others who comment on here.  But I have known several libertarian-types, and I&#8217;ve read a lot of libertarian websites, and there certainly seems to be a very high proportion of science fiction fans among them.  While this is anecdotal and inconclusive, I&#8217;d say it is a good indication of a link between science fiction and free-thinking in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Asehpe</title>
		<link>http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/genesis-of-a-harlot-part-one/#comment-2147</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Asehpe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the case of these critics, Maggie, I think the claim that they are &quot;unrealistic&quot; comes from theory -- in a male-dominated society women are oppressed, so they couldn&#039;t possibly develop these kinds of personality; also, these personalities are &quot;so obviously male&quot; it&#039;s easy to see they are just Male Patriarchy in drag, etc. etc. etc. I&#039;ve seen some of these, and I don&#039;t like them either.

But there is a different sense in some of Heinlein&#039;s female -- and male -- characters may be called unrealistic (note: not &lt;i&gt;impossible&lt;/i&gt;, just unrealistic), and it&#039;s their purity. Characters like Jubal Harshaw (from &lt;i&gt;Stranger in a Strange Land&lt;/i&gt;), Johan Sebastian Bach Smith from &lt;i&gt;I Will Fear No Evil&lt;/i&gt;, Maureen Smith from &lt;i&gt;To Sail Beyond the Sunset&lt;/i&gt;... They look like walking success machines, always knowing instinctively what the best solution is to a problem, never being trapped into internal problems... They seem immune to agony, self-doubt, insecurity, uncertainty; they are roaring waterfalls of energy that never stops pouring. They are beautiful to behold... but, like Burrough&#039;s Tarzan who could talk to the apes, who could speak English but only read French, not really a very easy-to-find type in real life.

Not that it&#039;s impossible. You do seem to approach the Heinlein type (I had thought of comparing you to Friday but then I saw a post in which you mentioned this had already been done). I have a friend -- a guy I dearly love and respect (if I ever turn gay, he&#039;d be my pick for a lover!) who also approaches the enthusiasm and energy of a Heinleinian hero as a &#039;success-machine&#039;. And yet... if you get to know him better, you&#039;ll see he has &#039;darker&#039; sides that aren&#039;t quite visible to the casual observer, sides that I&#039;ve never detected in a Heinlein character. My impression is that if I knew you as closely as I know this friend of mine, I&#039;d probably think the same about you. (I don&#039;t have any evidence of that, of course, other than my own experince with people. And I say this, believe me, with all due respect to the beauty of your impressive personality.)

That Heinlein based his characters on Virginia Heinlein doesn&#039;t make them more &quot;realistic&quot;: he may simply have put in them some of Ginny&#039;s features without adding certain others (that wouldn&#039;t be relevant for his success-via-hard-work driven narrative).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the case of these critics, Maggie, I think the claim that they are &#8220;unrealistic&#8221; comes from theory &#8212; in a male-dominated society women are oppressed, so they couldn&#8217;t possibly develop these kinds of personality; also, these personalities are &#8220;so obviously male&#8221; it&#8217;s easy to see they are just Male Patriarchy in drag, etc. etc. etc. I&#8217;ve seen some of these, and I don&#8217;t like them either.</p>
<p>But there is a different sense in some of Heinlein&#8217;s female &#8212; and male &#8212; characters may be called unrealistic (note: not <i>impossible</i>, just unrealistic), and it&#8217;s their purity. Characters like Jubal Harshaw (from <i>Stranger in a Strange Land</i>), Johan Sebastian Bach Smith from <i>I Will Fear No Evil</i>, Maureen Smith from <i>To Sail Beyond the Sunset</i>&#8230; They look like walking success machines, always knowing instinctively what the best solution is to a problem, never being trapped into internal problems&#8230; They seem immune to agony, self-doubt, insecurity, uncertainty; they are roaring waterfalls of energy that never stops pouring. They are beautiful to behold&#8230; but, like Burrough&#8217;s Tarzan who could talk to the apes, who could speak English but only read French, not really a very easy-to-find type in real life.</p>
<p>Not that it&#8217;s impossible. You do seem to approach the Heinlein type (I had thought of comparing you to Friday but then I saw a post in which you mentioned this had already been done). I have a friend &#8212; a guy I dearly love and respect (if I ever turn gay, he&#8217;d be my pick for a lover!) who also approaches the enthusiasm and energy of a Heinleinian hero as a &#8216;success-machine&#8217;. And yet&#8230; if you get to know him better, you&#8217;ll see he has &#8216;darker&#8217; sides that aren&#8217;t quite visible to the casual observer, sides that I&#8217;ve never detected in a Heinlein character. My impression is that if I knew you as closely as I know this friend of mine, I&#8217;d probably think the same about you. (I don&#8217;t have any evidence of that, of course, other than my own experince with people. And I say this, believe me, with all due respect to the beauty of your impressive personality.)</p>
<p>That Heinlein based his characters on Virginia Heinlein doesn&#8217;t make them more &#8220;realistic&#8221;: he may simply have put in them some of Ginny&#8217;s features without adding certain others (that wouldn&#8217;t be relevant for his success-via-hard-work driven narrative).</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie McNeill</title>
		<link>http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/genesis-of-a-harlot-part-one/#comment-2122</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maggie McNeill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 01:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always laugh out loud when some stupid &quot;feminist critic&quot; claims Heinlein&#039;s female characters are &quot;unrealistic&quot;, considering they were all based to one degree or another on his beloved wife Virginia, who gave him considerable input in their creation.  And I myself am so much like a female character that on more than one occasion a client or other man asked me, &quot;Have you ever read any Robert Heinlein?&quot; or, even more specifically, &quot;Have you ever read &lt;em&gt;Friday&lt;/em&gt;?&quot; :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always laugh out loud when some stupid &#8220;feminist critic&#8221; claims Heinlein&#8217;s female characters are &#8220;unrealistic&#8221;, considering they were all based to one degree or another on his beloved wife Virginia, who gave him considerable input in their creation.  And I myself am so much like a female character that on more than one occasion a client or other man asked me, &#8220;Have you ever read any Robert Heinlein?&#8221; or, even more specifically, &#8220;Have you ever read <em>Friday</em>?&#8221; <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Asehpe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Asehpe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 00:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think science fiction inspired free thinking, and the &lt;i&gt;intensity&lt;/i&gt; of thought, discovery, and science itself. I was hooked at age 8, and still am. (I remember continously falling in love with Robert Heinlein&#039;s female characters: they were not very realistic, but my! they were so intelligent, and &lt;i&gt;intensely&lt;/i&gt; so. There&#039;s a clear connection in my mind between intellectual passion/intensity and sexual passion/intensity. Heinlein is often been accused of sexism, and I can see motives in his work that aren&#039;t flattering to the fair sex; but all in all I haven&#039;t seen many feminist authors come up with &#039;empowered female characters&#039; that were much better than Podkayne or Friday or Dejah Thoris Carter or Maureen Smith.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think science fiction inspired free thinking, and the <i>intensity</i> of thought, discovery, and science itself. I was hooked at age 8, and still am. (I remember continously falling in love with Robert Heinlein&#8217;s female characters: they were not very realistic, but my! they were so intelligent, and <i>intensely</i> so. There&#8217;s a clear connection in my mind between intellectual passion/intensity and sexual passion/intensity. Heinlein is often been accused of sexism, and I can see motives in his work that aren&#8217;t flattering to the fair sex; but all in all I haven&#8217;t seen many feminist authors come up with &#8216;empowered female characters&#8217; that were much better than Podkayne or Friday or Dejah Thoris Carter or Maureen Smith.)</p>
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